My husband is going to deny orders to Japan(iwakuni)becuase he is a Cpl and doesnt have enough time left in contract for me and his children to go for 3 years.SO he has to go ALONE unaccompanied for 2 years and he doesnt want to go.So he is denying orders.I know this will hurt him but 2 years is too long.Does anybody have some insight on denying orders and OR any info on things he can do?he has talked to his monitor but his monitor is a real MEANIE!!!!!!!!! 

is he planning to EAS? 

yes he wants to 

then denying orders will not affect him in the least if he plans to get out.

I've always 'heard' it's a career ender. Others say that's not true. I think it's one of those things that depends on who you talk to.

But yeah, if he plans on getting out in 2 years, he doesn't need to 'worry' about his career. It won't affect his discharge, it will still be an honorable. 

I didn't even know you could do that. Crazy. 

I know mine would go, we'd just deal with it *shrug* 

That just sounds like it can't end well :/ Good luck though 

A good friend of mine just started a 2 yr unaccompanied in Oki. He is getting out soon after as well and they did not want to uproot the kids and his wifes nursing school is almost done. Yeah it sucks but it is not impossible to do. 

I didn't know that was possible! 

Maybe he can extend for a year so ya'll can have the 3 year accompanied tour?? 

If he's 2 years out I don't think he can extend yet skooch. But I could be wrong.

I say f*ck it *if* he is 100000000% sure he is getting out. Mine changed his mind a week and reenlisted 2 days prior to eas. But I know nothing about it so pay me no mind. 

If he's 2 years out I don't think he can extend yet skooch. But I could be wrong.


to accept orders, yes he can if he's not within reenlistment time. That's the point of an extension, it's because they can't reenlist yet. 

Something I've always heard about denying orders is:

You're issued orders & deny them. USMC can reissue the same orders again & you can't deny them; forcing you to go.

But maybe someone AD can chime in if that is correct info. I've always heard it was & is possible; just depends on how big of a-holes the command wants to be. 

I have also heard that, about denying, them then being reissued. Also, I have no idea if it is true.

Most monitors are meanies, but I have to say I don't blame them. They probably get a bajillion phone calls a day of Marines complaining that they cannot move here or there or anywhere. Not a job I would want. 

I was under the impression that a CPL has to go through his CP. When my husband was a Sgt (that's when we met) he said that he wasn't supposed to call his monitor directly until he was a SSGT. Has that changed?

Yes, Shae, they get a ton of phone calls. At least my husband's monitor does. They have become 'friendly' over the last two years, and when my husband was offered the job, even in a joking manner, he LOL'd.
During my husband's reenlistment the other week, I heard some of the dumb questions that were asked of the CP. I don't think I'd envy them, either. ha ha 

a18~ dont stress. My hubby denied deployment orders because he planned to get out the month after he would have deployed. His punishment?
Recruiting duty for 2 years... 

I didn't even pay attention to the rank, but yes, I believe that is the case, dmc.

I can imagine, they do. Last time my husband was in VA, he visited the monitor. He said it was crazy there. 

He said it was crazy there.

yes, that's what my husband says every time he is over in that building. He says 'no wonder they are always going TAD'. ha ha 

Just an FYI: Something to think about....
If he denies order he will be coded RE3C. That means he can't do anything in the Marine Corps ever again unless he accepts those orders unless the monitor changes those orders.
BUT.....It is still punishable under the UCMJ Article 92 failure to obey an order or regulation...if the command chooses to go that route. My advice is to readdress with the monitor via your chain of command.

If you can go as a family----You might find you like it....there is definatly money to made there.....

Just some things to think about. Every case is surely different. 

Hope he doesn't want to reenl cause it probably will not be approved at HQMC level since he turned down orders, plus he can always ask for a 12 month extension to execute the orders. Also good thing he is not a SNCO cause the MCO that came out many years ago said that if a SNCO had 20 years or more and turned down orders he/she would "get" to retire the month the orders were for.
I assigned a reenl code of RE-3C when a Hums action was approved and it just meant that in order to have it removed, the Marine had to send in an AA form or the Command would send in a msg stating that the Marine's hums was resolved and that he/she was avail for worldwide assignment.
All Marines think that their Monitors are mean. Should try doing their job if you think that or put in the number of hours a week that they do and let me tell you the hours they put in are much more than 40. 

When my husband was a Sgt (that's when we met) he said that he wasn't supposed to call his monitor directly until he was a SSGT. Has that changed?


It's pretty much command discretion, and you can call when you are a Sgt from what I was told. 

I know mine would go, we'd just deal with it *shrug*

agree...welcome to the Marine Corp...what would happen if his unit deployed, deny them? 

I have always heard that you can never try to get back into the MC once you deny orders. 

what would happen if his unit deployed, deny them?

I know someone who did that. I guess that was an option written into his reenlistment contract or something. The problem was that he went through the whole work up and at the last second said he wasn't going. 

I would ship mine off real quick! lol I would go home and live while he was in Oki. Collect the BHA and COLA....save it for when he does get out in 2 yrs. 

what would happen if his unit deployed, deny them?

Apparently.

I hope he doesn't want to re-enlist. They're being picky about whom they let re-enlist, a few of the guys DH works with tried to and were denied. 

I hope he doesn't want to re-enlist. They're being picky about whom they let re-enlist, a few of the guys DH works with tried to and were denied.

Yep I know a gunny who is just about finish his drill field tour...he went to reenlist they found a little "blemish" on his record from couple of years ago and guess what Denied! They are being very picky right now. 

Did that blemish happen to be a DUI? 

This girl that was in dh's last unit denied her orders to Japan. She didn't win. 

He might want to be careful. I had a friend who denied orders to Oki and the monitor gave her orders to Iwakuni a week later.